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	<title>Comments on: Shall I pour soda on her bed?</title>
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		<title>By: coyote</title>
		<link>http://bligbi.com/2009/03/06/shall-i-pour-soda-on-her-bed/comment-page-1/#comment-1981</link>
		<dc:creator>coyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t sound like she has much respect for others nor feels responsible for her actions.  

Instead of sending her to her room you could up the punishment by adding something else to be cleaned.  She spills soda and doesn&#039;t clean it up.  Not only does she have to clean up the spilled soda, but then she would also have to wash all the windows (or vacuum, or sort laundry, or do dishes, rake the leaves) - a chore she wouldn&#039;t normally have to do - something that will take 5 times longer than cleaning up the original soda spill.  

Merely a suggestion.  Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t sound like she has much respect for others nor feels responsible for her actions.  </p>
<p>Instead of sending her to her room you could up the punishment by adding something else to be cleaned.  She spills soda and doesn&#8217;t clean it up.  Not only does she have to clean up the spilled soda, but then she would also have to wash all the windows (or vacuum, or sort laundry, or do dishes, rake the leaves) &#8211; a chore she wouldn&#8217;t normally have to do &#8211; something that will take 5 times longer than cleaning up the original soda spill.  </p>
<p>Merely a suggestion.  Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: qwerty017</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But that is the lesson. That if you do something bad, something bad will happen. The only difference between shutting your kid in a room, making them sleep in a bed of soda, and blinding this man is the degree of punishment. In all three they are punishment. As the crime gets bigger the punishment does as well. You also need to take into account why someone did something. If your kid did it on purpose just to see how soda reacts with carpet over a period of time then a simple &quot;don&#039;t do that again&quot; and a time out might suffice. If she did it because her friends told her to and she doesn&#039;t respect your authority then when she gets out of timeout she won&#039;t care about the punishment and her friends will be proud that she made it through. Basically you just made a martyr. So do something that she cant brag to her friends about that will make a lasting impression of why you dont do that. Sleeping in a bed drenched with soda would do it. The same reasoning goes for the blinding guy.

If they just lock him up or kill him then he becomes a martyr. If he is blinded in the same way that he blinded the girls then he becomes an example. But not an example that you can show off and say how great he was that he died for the cause or that he is in jail for it. He is just a blind guy who was treated exactly as he treated women. SOmething no one can look up to as an example of the great and noble warrior he would have been made out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that is the lesson. That if you do something bad, something bad will happen. The only difference between shutting your kid in a room, making them sleep in a bed of soda, and blinding this man is the degree of punishment. In all three they are punishment. As the crime gets bigger the punishment does as well. You also need to take into account why someone did something. If your kid did it on purpose just to see how soda reacts with carpet over a period of time then a simple &#8220;don&#8217;t do that again&#8221; and a time out might suffice. If she did it because her friends told her to and she doesn&#8217;t respect your authority then when she gets out of timeout she won&#8217;t care about the punishment and her friends will be proud that she made it through. Basically you just made a martyr. So do something that she cant brag to her friends about that will make a lasting impression of why you dont do that. Sleeping in a bed drenched with soda would do it. The same reasoning goes for the blinding guy.</p>
<p>If they just lock him up or kill him then he becomes a martyr. If he is blinded in the same way that he blinded the girls then he becomes an example. But not an example that you can show off and say how great he was that he died for the cause or that he is in jail for it. He is just a blind guy who was treated exactly as he treated women. SOmething no one can look up to as an example of the great and noble warrior he would have been made out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, all three actions are wrong as they are merely ways to gain compliance through fear and ultimately solve nothing. The problem you mentioned is not that the lesson won&#039;t take, but that the fear may only be temporary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, all three actions are wrong as they are merely ways to gain compliance through fear and ultimately solve nothing. The problem you mentioned is not that the lesson won&#8217;t take, but that the fear may only be temporary.</p>
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		<title>By: qwerty017</title>
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		<dc:creator>qwerty017</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your example is a little off. If she did it on accident and would learn to not do it again by being sent to her room then yeah, covering her bed in soda would have been extreme. If on the other hand, she did it on purpose because all of her friends told her to do it and being sent to her room wouldn&#039;t have meant a thing to her because her friends would have been even more proud of her for having done it. 

Then at that point, the only way to teach her would be to show her why its not a good thing to spill soda on the floor on purpose. Basically, just like some people do with dogs when they pee on the floor, you have to rub their nose in the consequences of their actions on others and one way of doing that is in your daughters case, making her sleep in a soda drenched bed and in the Mans case, blinding him as he did to the girls. The only problem with both of those is that if they do not learn the lesson, they are even more likely to repeat their actions since you&#039;ve done the worst you can to them, at least in their own mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your example is a little off. If she did it on accident and would learn to not do it again by being sent to her room then yeah, covering her bed in soda would have been extreme. If on the other hand, she did it on purpose because all of her friends told her to do it and being sent to her room wouldn&#8217;t have meant a thing to her because her friends would have been even more proud of her for having done it. </p>
<p>Then at that point, the only way to teach her would be to show her why its not a good thing to spill soda on the floor on purpose. Basically, just like some people do with dogs when they pee on the floor, you have to rub their nose in the consequences of their actions on others and one way of doing that is in your daughters case, making her sleep in a soda drenched bed and in the Mans case, blinding him as he did to the girls. The only problem with both of those is that if they do not learn the lesson, they are even more likely to repeat their actions since you&#8217;ve done the worst you can to them, at least in their own mind.</p>
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