Just days after succeeding at removing the civil rights of gay people, the Mormon church has issued a statement calling for “mutual respect” and declaring that “no one on either side of the question should be vilified, harassed or subject to erroneous information”.
This from the group that donated $20 million of a total of $22 million into a drive to do away with the rights of a minority group via lies and vilification. It’s an amazing statement even for a church.
Not to be outdone, the Catholic church has also responded to the protests and you just have to read it to believe it.
“Proposition 8 is not against any group in our society. Its sole focus is on preserving God’s plan for people living upon this earth throughout time,” Cardinal Roger Mahony, archbishop of the Diocese of Los Angeles, said in a statement Thursday.
What’s there to say besides “WTF”? Is the rank of Cardinal something you get out of a Cracker Jack box? I mean, it’s not even a good lie. It’s a really, really, I can’t believe you just said that, stupid lie. Any one with half a brain should be able to understand that a constitutional amendment taking a recently restored right away from a group is, fundamentally, against that group.
Meanwhile, the protests are growing. From holding protests outside of the churches and calling for boycotts of businesses owned by Prop 8 supporters to calling for a boycott of Utah, things are getting a bit tough for the bigots who were behind Prop 8. There’s even a petition to get the Mormon church stripped of it’s tax exempt status.
Bigotry. It’s finally starting to come with a price these days, eh?
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“Bigotry. It’s finally starting to come with a price these days, eh?”
Wait until they start hollering “religious persecution!” It WILL happen. Things could get very ugly.
I have no doubt they will as some of them are already stating that it’s religious persecution if you won’t let them try to convert you.
Something about logs and eyes comes to mind here.
Why on earth would this god guy find the sight of two people showing love for each other unacceptable? I have asked this question of religious people and they really can’t answer it so they change the subject. They also change the subject when I mention this: according to Bruce Bagemihl (author of Biological Exuberance), homosexuality has been documented in more than 450 species of mammals, birds, reptiles, insects, and other animals worldwide. It makes no sense whatsoever to think that we are somehow different from those in the animal kingdom.
You know what I think? I think it’s time to turn the tables…
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All I can say is A to the Men. I’ve become pen pals with CEO of California Family Council, Ron Prentice and I plan to attend any rally in New York I can.
It amazes me that they were perfectly willing to make themselves look like intolerant zealots to nearly half the state, at the cost of millions, for a law that is likely to be struck down, which provides them no other benefit than the knowledge that gays will not marry—for now.
I am a graduate student at NCSU. I am majoring in economics. I am catholic. I am straight. I believe in gay rights. I do not think it should even be an issue. Sexual orientation does not define us as people. I do not recall we ever voted on heterosexual’s right to marry. Bigotry against anything slightly different from what is considered ‘standard’ is simply erroneous.
I am pretty sure god is capable of protecting his plan on earth without any help from narrow minded individuals that seem to interpret everything in a manner that serves their own interests. God created us equals. He preached about love, peace and acceptance. Let’s assume that marriage is a divine union then would anyone care to explain to me why 50% of these divine unions between a man and a woman end in divorce.
On a more practical note, I think we should consider the couples that are already married. Does that mean their marriages are null? What about the credibility of the Supreme Court?
In retrospective, should we not have learned from history’s lessons? We persecuted every free thinker, every initiative that could bring change. Why have we not learned? From Galileo to the witch hunts, one would assume that in the 21st century we as humans would have learned that diversity is a source of richness; difference is not an equivalent of danger.
“Proposition 8 is not against any group in our society. Its sole focus is on preserving God’s plan for people living upon this earth throughout time,” Cardinal Roger Mahony, archbishop of the Diocese of Los Angeles, said in a statement Thursday.”
This scares the hell out of me. Those in favor of Proposition 8 used the American system to PRESERVE GOD’S PLAN??? America is NOT an extension of any church, and our laws are subject to Biblical teachings and interpretations!
Hans is absolutely correct on this. America stands for freedom and equality. Prop 8 is anathema to the American way of thinking for 2 important reasons: 1). Not all religions define marriage as one man plus one woman equals one marriage. Therefore, to enshrine it into a Constitution endorses one religion over another AND interferes with the free exercise thereof by not allowing those who disagree to perform their religious rites. 2). If the right to marry is fundamental to the Constitution, then denying that right violates an individual’s fundamental rights. Whenever the state interferes with a fundamental right, the state must prove it has a compelling inteerst in doing so. I fail to see how endorsing a narrow religious view accomplishes the state’s interest in recording the private contracts of individuals. Indeed, one could successfully argue that the opposite is achieved if there are unrecorded (gay) partnerships. Based on the foregoing, it is clear that bigotry ruled the day when Prop 8 passed. Fundamental Constitutional rights are not subject to plebiscite.
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