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	<title>Comments on: Pretending to be guilty to please others</title>
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	<description>The ramblings of a non-apologetic militant atheist mom doing time in the lonestar state on atheism, religion, feminism, politics and current events.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Evo</title>
		<link>http://bligbi.com/2008/01/24/pretending-to-be-guilty-to-please-others/#comment-2753</link>
		<dc:creator>John Evo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Slut, I think I am here due to your winning a Stermy Award for this post (congratulations).  It's been a long, long time since I stopped by.  

I met a woman in the mid-seventies (who later became my girlfriend).  During one of our first serious discussions, she (a liberal, pro-choice individual) started crying as she told me about an abortion she had a couple of years previously.  I have always remembered that moment.  Other than giving her comfort (and my assurances that I was "on her side") I didn't say (or even really think) anything about the implications of that emotion, even though I couldn't really understand it.  Now maybe I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Slut, I think I am here due to your winning a Stermy Award for this post (congratulations).  It&#8217;s been a long, long time since I stopped by.  </p>
<p>I met a woman in the mid-seventies (who later became my girlfriend).  During one of our first serious discussions, she (a liberal, pro-choice individual) started crying as she told me about an abortion she had a couple of years previously.  I have always remembered that moment.  Other than giving her comfort (and my assurances that I was &#8220;on her side&#8221;) I didn&#8217;t say (or even really think) anything about the implications of that emotion, even though I couldn&#8217;t really understand it.  Now maybe I do.</p>
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		<title>By: slut</title>
		<link>http://bligbi.com/2008/01/24/pretending-to-be-guilty-to-please-others/#comment-2751</link>
		<dc:creator>slut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. That's what really pisses me off the most about the fundies and right wingers, that they work so hard to make women who get an abortion feel guilty about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. That&#8217;s what really pisses me off the most about the fundies and right wingers, that they work so hard to make women who get an abortion feel guilty about it.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
		<link>http://bligbi.com/2008/01/24/pretending-to-be-guilty-to-please-others/#comment-2701</link>
		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know where you're coming from - especially about kids.  We only have one and would rather be shot than go through pregnancy,labour and infancy again.  It's annoying how many people, pro-choice even, will state that "accidents happen" and get that horrified look when the snarky bitch in me says "so do abortions".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know where you&#8217;re coming from - especially about kids.  We only have one and would rather be shot than go through pregnancy,labour and infancy again.  It&#8217;s annoying how many people, pro-choice even, will state that &#8220;accidents happen&#8221; and get that horrified look when the snarky bitch in me says &#8220;so do abortions&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark</title>
		<link>http://bligbi.com/2008/01/24/pretending-to-be-guilty-to-please-others/#comment-2696</link>
		<dc:creator>Dark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just stumbled across your blog (immediately after discovering Atheism Central) and I'm loving it. This post is dead on. Although you talk about a Big Deal issue, it's still true on the micro-scale - I'm sick of having to fake that I feel guilty for ordering "too much" food, which basically means as much or as (gasp!) maybe a little more than the guy I'm eating with, because otherwise I must be a pig. Why should I have to appear embarrassed that I'm &lt;i&gt;hungry&lt;/i&gt;? 

I'm sick of reading articles talking about how the poor boys are falling behind in school, like I'm supposed to be ashamed that feminism has gone "too far." I'm sick of people who act like I'm either just kidding (or don't know what I'm talking about) or else I must be a horrible human being because I don't want kids. And I am sick of the looks of shock I get when I calmly say that if I were to get pregnant right now, regardless of how, I'd be getting an abortion as soon as humanly possible. 

Even though this statement only ever takes place in discussions with close friends, who know me well and are pro-choice, they still act like that's a horrible thing to say. Should I be ashamed to admit I have &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; interest in having a child? Should I act guilty that I realise that being pregnant, even if I gave the kid up for adoption (assuming the pregnancy went okay all the way to the end), would screw up school and totally ruin my plan for my life? Should I feel selfish and wail about how I'm a horrible person because I don't want to spend nine months in physical and emotional peril and pain?

Well, I don't. And I am absolutely fed up of people assuming I must not mean what I say, or else I must be internally wracked with guilt, or some other such nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just stumbled across your blog (immediately after discovering Atheism Central) and I&#8217;m loving it. This post is dead on. Although you talk about a Big Deal issue, it&#8217;s still true on the micro-scale - I&#8217;m sick of having to fake that I feel guilty for ordering &#8220;too much&#8221; food, which basically means as much or as (gasp!) maybe a little more than the guy I&#8217;m eating with, because otherwise I must be a pig. Why should I have to appear embarrassed that I&#8217;m <i>hungry</i>? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick of reading articles talking about how the poor boys are falling behind in school, like I&#8217;m supposed to be ashamed that feminism has gone &#8220;too far.&#8221; I&#8217;m sick of people who act like I&#8217;m either just kidding (or don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m talking about) or else I must be a horrible human being because I don&#8217;t want kids. And I am sick of the looks of shock I get when I calmly say that if I were to get pregnant right now, regardless of how, I&#8217;d be getting an abortion as soon as humanly possible. </p>
<p>Even though this statement only ever takes place in discussions with close friends, who know me well and are pro-choice, they still act like that&#8217;s a horrible thing to say. Should I be ashamed to admit I have <i>no</i> interest in having a child? Should I act guilty that I realise that being pregnant, even if I gave the kid up for adoption (assuming the pregnancy went okay all the way to the end), would screw up school and totally ruin my plan for my life? Should I feel selfish and wail about how I&#8217;m a horrible person because I don&#8217;t want to spend nine months in physical and emotional peril and pain?</p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t. And I am absolutely fed up of people assuming I must not mean what I say, or else I must be internally wracked with guilt, or some other such nonsense.</p>
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