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	<description>The ramblings of a non-apologetic militant atheist mom doing time in the lonestar state on atheism, religion, feminism, politics and current events.</description>
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		<title>By: mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kc-The guilt trip point you make is the only thing that has kept america in check for generations. It's getting old, and, it's getting old!

"Do no harm" should be the 1st and last  george tenet we need..

Another biting, hate-filled, depressing fuckin  critique.
I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kc-The guilt trip point you make is the only thing that has kept america in check for generations. It&#8217;s getting old, and, it&#8217;s getting old!</p>
<p>&#8220;Do no harm&#8221; should be the 1st and last  george tenet we need..</p>
<p>Another biting, hate-filled, depressing fuckin  critique.<br />
I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Schnappi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schnappi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 11:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite="Andy"&gt;
Though, to be fair, a human being doesnâ€™t understand Godâ€™s reasons.
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Well, most people can't easily understand themselves, let alone other people, let alone fictional characters dreamed up by primitive tribesmen in a distant past. The reasons of those who invented the biblical god are brutally transparent, however: naked power and control. The old testament oozes with it.</description>
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Though, to be fair, a human being doesnâ€™t understand Godâ€™s reasons.
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<p>Well, most people can&#8217;t easily understand themselves, let alone other people, let alone fictional characters dreamed up by primitive tribesmen in a distant past. The reasons of those who invented the biblical god are brutally transparent, however: naked power and control. The old testament oozes with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival Alerts - Bligbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival Alerts - Bligbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The newest issue of the Carnival of the Godless is up over at Klass Acts and features my post If it weren&#8217;t for Hell&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The newest issue of the Carnival of the Godless is up over at Klass Acts and features my post If it weren&#8217;t for Hell&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bligbi: &#34;If it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t for Hell, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d kill you but that doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t make me a bad person&#34;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bligbi: &#34;If it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t for Hell, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d kill you but that doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t make me a bad person&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bligbi has said shortened that argument &#8212; and its implication &#8212; in a simple, brilliant way: If it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t for Hell, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d kill you but that doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t make me a bad person. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bligbi has said shortened that argument &#8212; and its implication &#8212; in a simple, brilliant way: If it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t for Hell, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d kill you but that doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t make me a bad person. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; If it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t for Hell&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; If it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t for Hell&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No, this theory normally comes out when the faithful go on the offensive, when the faithful attack the faithless. That is when the peculiar morality leaks out and the neural scramble caused by a life devoted to fairy tales becomes apparent. That is when the abscess bursts and the stinking puss stains the pews. That is when the kind of morality nursed on festering rot that Bligbi highlights in If it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t for Hell, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d kill you but that doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t make me a bad person. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No, this theory normally comes out when the faithful go on the offensive, when the faithful attack the faithless. That is when the peculiar morality leaks out and the neural scramble caused by a life devoted to fairy tales becomes apparent. That is when the abscess bursts and the stinking puss stains the pews. That is when the kind of morality nursed on festering rot that Bligbi highlights in If it wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t for Hell, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d kill you but that doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t make me a bad person. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: muddymunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>muddymunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TurboFool, I don't believe you "got" the tone of this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TurboFool, I don&#8217;t believe you &#8220;got&#8221; the tone of this article.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to nitpick, but shouldn't you have written "If there's anything about &lt;b&gt;some&lt;/b&gt; believers that creeps me out..."  I'm a believer and I abhor violence as much as the next guy.  I don't even believe that God punishes "the wicked" for an eternity, and it's obvious to me that God does things which a moral human being would not.  (Though, to be fair, a human being doesn't understand God's reasons.  That, to me, is where faith comes in -- faith that God has his/her/its reasons.)

That is like me saying, "What creeps me out about atheists is the idea that we should slaughter all effeminate males and use super weapons to dominate alien civilizations."  (I met an atheist who thought just this.)

Again, not to nitpick, but this shouldn't be a black and white issue of atheists vs. theists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to nitpick, but shouldn&#8217;t you have written &#8220;If there&#8217;s anything about <b>some</b> believers that creeps me out&#8230;&#8221;  I&#8217;m a believer and I abhor violence as much as the next guy.  I don&#8217;t even believe that God punishes &#8220;the wicked&#8221; for an eternity, and it&#8217;s obvious to me that God does things which a moral human being would not.  (Though, to be fair, a human being doesn&#8217;t understand God&#8217;s reasons.  That, to me, is where faith comes in &#8212; faith that God has his/her/its reasons.)</p>
<p>That is like me saying, &#8220;What creeps me out about atheists is the idea that we should slaughter all effeminate males and use super weapons to dominate alien civilizations.&#8221;  (I met an atheist who thought just this.)</p>
<p>Again, not to nitpick, but this shouldn&#8217;t be a black and white issue of atheists vs. theists.</p>
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		<title>By: vjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>vjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If their religion is supposed to keep them moral, then how to they explain all the immoral acts committed in the name of their religion?</description>
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		<title>By: TurboFool</title>
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		<dc:creator>TurboFool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an incredibly biased article that was. So apparently my wife and daughter should live in fear every day of me leaving them, and those around me should be afraid that I could decide to go on a murderous rampage. Forget the fact that I love my wife and daughter and don't wish to leave them. Forget the fact that if, for some reason, I did wish to leave them I could never afford the alimony and child support. Forget the fact that if I went on a murderous rampage I'd be killing fellow human beings for whom I care and respect. Forget the fact that I'm sickened by the sight of carnage and gore and would likely crumble to pieces after the first murder. Forget the fact that I'd then go to prison for the rest of the only life I believe I have. Yep, clearly because I don't believe in eternal damnation, I could easily choose any of these acts with no trouble.

So what's up with all those people who carry out these very same acts in the name of their Gods?

Humans are humans, and our nature is the proof that we're driven by instinct. People will go nuts and kill others. People will walk out on responsibility and turn their backs on loved-ones. They do this not because they're not afraid of God, they do it because they're animals and their instincts and values differ from person to person. A Christian can point to an atheist who does it and claim it's because of our lack of belief, but if a fellow Christian does it, well, I guess it's simply because they didn't believe strongly enough either.

All I know is that out of all the atheists I know, a larger percentage of them volunteer in various animal rights groups, human rights groups, homeless shelters, and other noble efforts than the percentage of Christians I know. They do so out of compassion for those less fortunate than themselves, and not out of fear of the afterlife. How does this not make them "better" people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an incredibly biased article that was. So apparently my wife and daughter should live in fear every day of me leaving them, and those around me should be afraid that I could decide to go on a murderous rampage. Forget the fact that I love my wife and daughter and don&#8217;t wish to leave them. Forget the fact that if, for some reason, I did wish to leave them I could never afford the alimony and child support. Forget the fact that if I went on a murderous rampage I&#8217;d be killing fellow human beings for whom I care and respect. Forget the fact that I&#8217;m sickened by the sight of carnage and gore and would likely crumble to pieces after the first murder. Forget the fact that I&#8217;d then go to prison for the rest of the only life I believe I have. Yep, clearly because I don&#8217;t believe in eternal damnation, I could easily choose any of these acts with no trouble.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s up with all those people who carry out these very same acts in the name of their Gods?</p>
<p>Humans are humans, and our nature is the proof that we&#8217;re driven by instinct. People will go nuts and kill others. People will walk out on responsibility and turn their backs on loved-ones. They do this not because they&#8217;re not afraid of God, they do it because they&#8217;re animals and their instincts and values differ from person to person. A Christian can point to an atheist who does it and claim it&#8217;s because of our lack of belief, but if a fellow Christian does it, well, I guess it&#8217;s simply because they didn&#8217;t believe strongly enough either.</p>
<p>All I know is that out of all the atheists I know, a larger percentage of them volunteer in various animal rights groups, human rights groups, homeless shelters, and other noble efforts than the percentage of Christians I know. They do so out of compassion for those less fortunate than themselves, and not out of fear of the afterlife. How does this not make them &#8220;better&#8221; people?</p>
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		<title>By: Saint Gasoline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saint Gasoline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who make those sorts of moral arguments don't really understand true morality, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who make those sorts of moral arguments don&#8217;t really understand true morality, anyway.</p>
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